Thank-giving Day Slaughter of Dolphins at Taiji

Report by Captain Paul Watson

dolphin in the coveHi, this is Captain Paul Watson onboard the Sea Shepherd ship Steve Irwin in Australia. I just received a phone call from Scott West in Taiji, Japan.

It appears there is no respite for the defenseless dolphins driven into the Cove at Taiji this Thanksgiving weekend.

Some 25 dolphins were driven into the bay, confused and disoriented by fishermen banging pipes in the sea. The marine mammals were forced into the Cove and a net was closed behind them.

The killers began to move in with gutting knives and spears. The afternoon air has been shattered by the pitiful screams of dolphins being mortally wounded.

The thugs of Taiji have once again brought shame to the nation of Japan with their cruel and remorseless killing of these highly intelligent, socially complex sentient beings.

The world is sickened by this slaughter, yet Japan continues the atrocities uncaring of world opinion.

We must continue to call Japanese consulates and embassies. We must not let them think our outrage will go away.

The Cove Guardians on the ground are doing what they can to keep us aware of the horrors at Taiji. 17-year-old Elora West has spent nearly three months documenting the crimes of the Taiji butchers. And it is just as important for everyone who can do so to call the Japanese embassies and consulates to keep this campaign alive. Remember they have to log every protest call you make.
The dolphins need your help so please call today and say no to the slaughter of dolphins at Taiji.

Send a letter, e-mail, call and/or fax to the Prime Minister of Japan, the Minister of Fisheries, your local embassy or consulate and other Japanese officials to let them know that this barbaric slaughter is unacceptable.

PRIME MINISTER OF JAPAN
Prime Minister Naoto Kan
Cabinet Office, Government of Japan
1-6-1 Nagata-cho
Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo. 100-8914 JAPAN
+81-3-5253-2111

MINISTER OF FISHERIES
Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries
Masahiko Yamada
1-2-1 Kasumigaseki
Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo. 100-8950 JAPAN
Tel: +81-3-3502-8111
Fax: +81-3-3502-8220


EMBASSY OF JAPAN IN WASHINGTON D.C.
Ambassador Ichiro Fujisaki
2520 Massachusetts Ave., N.W.
Washington D.C. 20008-2869
Tel: (202) 238-6700
Fax: (202) 328-2187

Source: http://www.seashepherd.org/dolphins/thank-giving-day-slaughter-of-dolphins-at-taiji.html

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Sooty Sludge

The Rise of the Ratfish

Ever hear the story of the Ratfish? Well it goes something like this...

Once upon a time in North America, there was a sound called Puget Sound that was full of fish. There was so many fish that many many people made their living catching fish in the sound. They were happy times when men could make a fortune fishing the depths of the sound.

But one day fisherman brought up their lines and found that there were hardly any fish on the end. "How could this be!?" exclaimed the fisherman. "The fish must be getting too smart for our fishing hooks" said the fisherman in the yellow poncho. "Well we'll have to show those fish who the smart ones are..." said the fisherman in the khaki overalls, "We'll use nets!"

Then the fisherman started pulling up bigger catches than ever in their nets, and their wives were happy because they could buy beautiful things that they didn't need. And the fisherman were happy because their wives were happy.

Until one day the fisherman in the yellow poncho came home with no fish.

"Where are all the fish?" asked his wife.

"I don't know" said the fisherman in the yellow poncho, "I've bought bigger and bigger nets but I keep getting less and less fish."

"I don't think there's any fish left in the sound," mumbled the fisherman.

And he was right. The fisherman had been far too smart for the fish and now there was none left for anybody. None except for the Ratfish, which without any other predators was free to take over the sound.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/pacificnw/2012531495_pacificpratfish15.html?cmpid=2628

Jelly fish n chips

Killing Cove LIVE!

It takes a lot of guts to stick around where you're not wanted, especially when the result could mean arrest and getting stuck in a Japanese jail. That's exactly what Scott West is risking by hanging around the Killing Cove in Taiji, Japan.

Scott is in Taiji with his daughter Elora watching over the Killing Cove everyday during the 'Oikami' hunt, which runs from September to February. They are uploading photos and videos of everything that goes on. You can follow his daily updates here, or follow his daughters blog here.

Over the last few days they watched as the Taiji fishermen herded 15 pilot whales into the cove. They were kept alive in the cove while the fisherman tried to sell them to trainers from an unknown aquarium. They were obviously deemed unsuitable for the live aquarium trade. Shortly after the trainers left they were slaughtered and their bodies taken to the butcher house were they are cut up for their meat.

It's so much more disturbing to know that this is all happening RIGHT NOW. Japan is basically in the same timezone as Australia so basically, while we were at our desks slaving for the man, these beautiful pilot whales were trapped in a shallow grave awaiting slaughter.

Now there are a number of things you can do to help. Best of all would be to head to Taiji along side Scott and Elora. They're desperately seeking support on the ground in Taiji. If you're planning a trip to Japan or nearby why not detour to Taiji and see it for yourself, even for just a day or two?  If you can't be there, then there is an international day of protest planned for the 14th October. Check it out here. And of course you can donate to Sea Shepherd here.

Unfortunately, in today's update they've reported that the fisherman have just herded in a group of between 17 - 20 Dolphins who are now trapped in the cove. The fisherman are back out at sea now hunting for more Dolphins. When they come back in there will be a blood bath.
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The End of the Line

I saw this movie on Friday called The End of the Line. If you know anything about the movie, you might have guessed that it was what inspired my last post. It wasn't. I started writing that post about three months ago when I read about the plight of the Northern Bluefin Tuna.

Then I gave up on this blog - I didn't write another thing for three months.
The movie inspired me to finish the post. It inspired me to keep this blog going, it inspired me to do what I can to spread the word about issues that matter to the future of this planet. I don't know if anyone reads this blog, but on the off chance that someone stumbles across it and reads something that changes their view on the issues I believe in, I'll keep writing.

Now I know most people don't want to see amazing animals like the Bluefin Tuna or the Northern Cod fished into extinction. Most people find the animals of this planet intriguing and beautiful and want them around for their children to see. But most people simply don't have the time to worry about things like this all the time. They're too worried about feeding their own family, keeping a roof over their heads and keeping their job. And that's fair enough too. That's why movies like this are so important - they lay it all out for us in black & white and they show us easy ways we can help fix the problem.

This movie isn't just about Tuna.
This movie isn't against fishing.
This movie is about the future of our oceans.


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Where have all the Tuna gone???

Yellowfin tuna are being fished as a replaceme...Image via Wikipedia
Canned Tuna is the biggest selling seafood item in Australia. At a guess, it must be the biggest selling seafood item in the world - maybe not for much longer.  Our hunger for tinned Tuna, and for Tuna sushi and sashimi, has led to many species of Tuna being critically over fished.

According to the International Seafood Sustainability Foundation, Indian Ocean Yellowfin, Pacific Ocean Bigeye, and Albacore Tuna are all overfished. Northern Bluefin Tuna, the most sought after tuna for sashimi and sushi, is one of the most endangered fish species on the planet.

Bluefin Tuna don't reproduce until a later age, and are often killed for our food before they've had a chance to reproduce. It's completely unthinkable, but Atlantic Bluefin Tuna could be extinct in LESS THAN two years! Stocks are currently estimated to be at 3% of their 1960's level - a decline of 97%. Yet the worldwide fishing quota for Bluefin is three times what scientists recommend for recovery of the species.

Bluefin Tuna are an amazingly strong, fast and beautiful fish. If you haven't seen a Bluefin Tuna before, you will be amazed at their size. They can reach more than 13 feet in length (twice as tall as the tallest guy you know) and swim faster than 60km/h. But unfortunately, they don't stand a chance against modern purse seine net fishing practices. The Bluefin are actually hunted by small aircraft that spot the Tuna shoals and call in their coordinates to the fishing boats. The boats circle the Tuna shoal with massive purse seine nets that can hold up to 10 jumbo jets. All they have to do then is tighten the net. It's not even a sport anymore, it's just another company making massive amounts of money while the poor fisherman are ruining their own lively-hood. 

And you still want to eat Tuna?!!

Well in that case... Greenpeace Australia have just released their updated tinned Tuna guide.

If you must eat tinned Tuna, please only eat one of these listed above. If you're going to eat Tuna sushi or sashimi, ask what type of Tuna it is. As always, the power is with us, the consumers. If you demand sustainably fished species of fish, they will have to supply sustainably fished species of fish! Supply & Demand.

And if you're not going to listen to me, listen to your friend Vincent Chase...



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Quote of the week

"A mind of the caliber of mine cannot derive its nutriment from cows."
     George Bernard Shaw - Irish playwright and the first person to win a Nobel Prize for Literature (1925) and an Oscar (1938), on being vegetarian. He wanted to refuse the Nobel Prize because he had no desire for public honors, but his wife made him take it as a tribute to Ireland. However, he did refuse the monetary award. Nobel indeed!

Look who's come to the party...

Picture courtesy of The Australian (You may recognise the boat from our logo, before Yushin was changed to Sushi)


So the Rudd government is going to take international legal action against The Whaling Fleet at the International Court of Justice.

But is it a last ditch effort for some green credentials before the federal election?  Does it matter, if it means they're finally going to take action on whaling?

It is interesting timing for the move. And after backing down on their proposed Carbon Trading Scheme, and doing nothing about the Japanese whaling fleet all through the hunting season, Labor are in dire need of some green votes for the up-coming election.

Also, it sounds very unlikely that the action will do anything more than strain Australia's relations with Japan.  Apparently the International Whaling Committee is meeting in June, and it is likely they will approve Japan's request for a commercial kill quota of 410 whales per year.  This will mean, that even if Australia successfully stop the Japanese whaling for 'Scientific' reasons, there will be little they can do to stop The Commercial Whaling Fleet.

Still, I'm happy to see the government taking a position and letting the Japanese know we're serious about the issue. Hopefully some other nations follow our lead. In the meantime, it's going to be Sea Shepherd down there defending our mammal friends. So if you fell strongly about this issue, head over there and lend them some support.

If the Earth Were Small...



I read this poem a little while ago. It was printed on the back of a thank you card given to guests at Al Gore's climate change summit (I wasn't a guest, just a friend of a guest).

If the Earth were small... we might appreciate it for the miracle it is.

Victorious

Nestle have crumbled, as we new they would. Only two months after Greenpeace launched their campaign to stop Nestle using palm oil linked to rainforest destruction, Nestle have announced they will stop using suppliers such as Sinar Mas & Cargill, who have been tearing down rainforests to plant palm oil plantations.

Consumers have the power and this proves it. Why stop here? Well done to everybody that signed a petition, emailed Nestle, or helped to spread the word. And well done Greenpeace.

Quote of the week

"Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response.  In our response lies our growth and our freedom."
               Viktor E. Frankl

Hmm powerful words...  makes you feel like there's a lifetime in that space between stimulus and response, like you have all the opportunity in the world in those few seconds!  If only we could pause time in that gap and really think about our next move.  There's more time in that space than we allow ourselves, but we're all in such a rush we never take that time.  Then again... sometimes it's best to act on impulse, without thinking; we all know that sometimes thinking too much leads to the worst outcome.

Dove is not the Devil

Well... Dove is no longer the devil. But they were, so I'm glad they made an appearance on Nature Haters and we all got to see that great video.


In all honesty, I made a bit of a blunder and pointed out that Dove was using cheap Indonesian palm oil in its products. Unfortunately, I had already said on a previous post that Unilever had announced it was removing palm oil from its products...  not realising Unilever is the parent company of Dove.


No such announcements from Nestle yet.


But good news... Greenpeace are fighting the good fight. At the Nestle AGM in April, Greenpeace activists broke in through the ceiling and unfurled two 'Give the orang-utans a break' banners right over the shareholders heads. Legends. I wish they'd dropped a massive Nature Haters banner!

Don't think this issue is just about saving Orangutans - the major killer here is deforestation. These guys tear down the rainforest, then they burn all the leftovers. They're tearing and burning at such a rate, that Indonesia is now the third largest greenhouse gas emitter on our planet!

If you want to do something about this terrible situation, head over HERE and help the peeps over at Greenpeace to give the Orang-utans, and our planets rainforests, a break.

An Apple's Ecological Footprint

Want to know an easy way you can dramatically shrink your shoe size? And in turn shrink your ecological footprint?

Buy local produce. That simple.

Check out this exert from David Suzuki' and David R. Boyd's Green Guide
An Apple's Ecological Footprint
    Consider two seemingly similar apples. One apple grew on a tree in your backyard (or your neighbours) using nothing but sunshine, compost, and rainfall, relying on natural processes to avoid disease and pest infestations. When the apple was ripe you simply picked it and ate it.
The other apple grew on a commercial farm in another country. This apple was grown in soil that required chemical fertilizers and irrigation to nourish the tree. Pesticides made from fossil fuels were used to battle pests and diseases. Large machinery powered by dirty diesel fuel was used  on the farm, along with migrant labour. The apple was waxed, packed in a box, and shipped thousands of kilometers to your country (using more energy and generating more emissions). Then it was trucked to a distribution center and eventually to a store. All along the line, the apple was refrigerated to keep it fresh, using yet more energy. You drove to the store to purchase groceries and returned home, where you ate this second, noticeably less tasty apple.
The local apple obviously requires far fewer resources to grow, harvest, transport, and store. By using less energy, it causes less pollution. In short, the local apple has a much smaller ecological footprint than the imported apple.
I think it helps to be reminded from time to time, that such a small action, like purchasing most of your groceries from your local farmers market, can make such a huge difference.

As they say in the Green Guide:
"When one person or a few dedicated environmentalists do it (any positive change), the effects are negligible. But when an entire community, state, or nation make the switch, the impact can be enormous... No one sets out to deliberately ruin the planet, but to varying degrees we are all part of the problem. In many ways, through ignorance, laziness (I hate laziness!), or indifference, our actions add up to a destructive effect. Once we become aware of the impact humanity is having, the challenge is to deliberately change deeply ingrained habits."
So this weekend, take a backpack, get on your bike, and ride down to your local farmers market. And you have to try the apples, they're my favourite thing to buy at the farmers market - so much better! I'm lucky enough to have an organic farmers market on every Sunday, within 1km of my place. Get on google if you're not sure where your local farmers market is.

Boiling Blood

Some Nature Hating fool tried to tell me that you waste more electricity turning a light switch off and back on, than you save turning it off for a while! Was this guy for real? Has anyone else heard this crap or actually believed it? OH man, the only thing that shits me more than Nature Haters, is the lazy excuses they come up with to save their fat lazy arse's from getting up off the couch! What a fucking jerk - seriously.

A short flirt with Google had the answer in under 2 secs. The estimates range from 0.16 second to 2 seconds, that you need to have the light off for to save more electricity than you burn turning it back on.

So, if you're not going to be in a room for more than 2 seconds, turn the light off! (and the spare TV)

THINKING SHIFT

I just stumbled across this blog called Thinking Shift today.

She has a great post up on the palm oil boom in Indonesia. It's a lot more detailed and informative than the post here on Nature Haters. Whereas I just hear about an issue, get angry about it, and post - it seems the lady that writes Thinking Shift actually researches the issues and structures her posts. I've stolen a part of the blog post here that I should have had in my post...

Palm oil is present in around 40% of products and is also labelled as any of the following:
  • sodium lauryl sulphate
  • sodium dodecyl sulphate
  • hydrated palm glycerides
  • palmate
  • palm oil kernel
  • palmitate
  • cocoa butter equivalent (CBE)
  • cocoa butter substitute (CBS)
  • palm olein
  • palm stearine
  • hexadecylic or palmitic acid
If you use margarine, most likely the margarine is derived from palm oil. See if the emulsifier, E471, is listed because this is derived from palm oil. Likely suspects are also: Emulsifiers 422, 430-36, 470-8, 481-483, 493-5.
In cosmetics, soaps and detergents, palm oil is often labelled as:
  • elais guineensis
  • lyceryl stearate
  • stearic acid
  • sodium lauryl sulphate
  • sodium laureth sulphate
  • cetyl alcohol
  • isopropyl
  • steareth-2
  • steareth-20

Another article I stumbled across on Thinking Shift was a well written piece on global warming. I really recommend going over there and reading both of these articles.

While I was looking around I also found out that Dove cosmetics uses palm oil sourced from one of the worst exploiters of Indonesia's rainforests for cheap palm oil. Here's a little re-make of one of Dove's ads.


I normally use Dove soap here at home. Not anymore...




Dove is the devil!!!

Paw Paw Pawtroleum



I'm really sorry to do this to you because I know you're addicted just like I was. I mean it looks good, it feels good and it's natural isn't it? Unfortunately not.

The good folks at Peppermint Mag have discovered that Lucas' Paw Paw Ointment is, in fact, petroleum jelly based. I knew it was too good to be true!

No matter, a short search on the internet reveals numerous other options that are petrochemical free.



Simmons - Petroleum free Paw Paw salve



Enjoy your new lip balm.

Nature Hater of the week



So this may be old news to some - but Palm Oil is in most of the foods on our supermarket shelves, and it's responsible for the clearing of 300 rugby fields of rainforest every HOUR!

Please watch this video... (it will save me a lot of typing and you a lot of reading)



Fucking Nature Haters!

We're not completely sure why these environmentalists are so hung up on Orangutans, as it seems Elephants and Tigers are also victims of this extreme deforestation. I guess it's because the Indonesian rainforest is the last remaining habitat of Orangutans on Earth. If deforestation of the area continues at the current rate, 98% of the rainforest will be gone in 20 years!

One of the main companies who support these Orangutan killers is Nestle, who are the numero uno food and drink company in the world. Just turn over some of the packets in your cupboards and fridge and you'll see a Nestle logo on most of them... Nestle actually source their palm oil from a company called Sinar Mas Group. Sinar Mas is already well known for its history with illegal logging and deforestation and they also have a reputation for exploiting the local population in the areas where they're tearing down forests. Unilever (another large food company) stopped purchasing palm oil from Sinar Mas last year for these reasons. But not Nestle! Anything to make a buck huh!?

Of course this is a pain in the arse for most of us, because it means that we're going to have to change some of our habits. We here at Nature Haters have even stopped eating 2-minute noodles! It is a sad day when we turn our backs on the one food that helped us survive our poverty stricken uni days.

The thing that really pisses us off is, there's a number of other oils they could use such as Canola Oil or Vegetable Oil. And most of them are better for our health (palm oil is very high in saturated fats) as well as the environment. Palm oil is just the cheapest option for these huge multi-national companies. And as consumers, we're to blame for always picking the cheapest $$ option and not thinking of the other costs involved (don't be too hard on yourself though :-).

Now you know we love to take the piss out of nature haters here, but in this case, Greenpeace has already done it for us...




On a brighter note, it appears you can continue to stuff you arteries with KFC chips, as they have announced they're switching from Palm Oil to a Canola blend. And even better than that, Cadbury has announced they're removing Palm Oil from their chocolate. Just in time for Easter...

Don't be a Nature Hater! Boycott Nestle and other companies that insist on using palm oil in their products.

WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM???


I thought so... Well then do your part to look after it. Vote Earth.




This Saturday night at 8:30pm, turn your lights off for an hour and show the planet you care.

If you're not sure what to do for an hour in the dark, have a look here for some great events. We recommend Goat Island if you're in Sydney where you can watch the whole city and the harbour bridge turn the lights out.

Here's another great idea...



But seriously, get involved, spread the word and make sure everyone you know turns their lights out for at least one hour Saturday night. Go to the Earth Hour website and register to turn your lights out. They'll even send you a reminder text msg.

If you're at a party on Sat night, take some candles - shit could get real interesting.

And keep it up in the future! If you're not in a room (e.g. toilet) - you don't need the fucking light on in there. If you're not in the lounge room - turn off the fucking TV!

Don't be a Nature Hater.

Just telling it how it is...

"THE WORLD is run by one million evil men, ten million stupid men, and a hundred million cowards.

"There are only one million of them, the truly evil men, in the whole world. The very rich and the very powerful, whose decisions really count - they only number one million.

"The stupid men, who number 10 million, are the soldiers and policemen who enforce the rule of the evil men. They are the standing armies of 12 key countries, and the police forces of those and twenty more. In total, there are only 10 million of them with any real power or consequence. They are often brave, I'm sure, but they are stupid, too, because they give their lives for governments and causes that use their flesh and blood as mere chest pieces. Those governments always betray them or let them down or abandon them, in the long run. Nations neglect no men more shamefully than the heroes of their wars.

"And the hundred million cowards, they are the bureaucrats and paper shufflers and pen pushers who permit the rule of evil men, and look the other way. They are the head of this department, and the secretary of that committee, and the president of the other association. They are managers, and officials, and mayors, and officers of the court. They always defend themselves by saying that they are just following orders, or just doing their job, and it's nothing personal, and if they don't do it, someone else surely will. They are the hundred million cowards who know what is going on, but say nothing, while they sign the paper that puts one man before a firing squad, or condemns one million men to the slower death of a famine.

"The world is run by one million evil men, ten million stupid men, and a hundred million cowards. The rest of us, all six billion of us, do pretty much what we are told."
Abdul Ghani, SHANTARAM, by Gregory David Roberts
A little extreme??? Nah, pretty spot on...
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Nature Lover of the Week

The man, the myth, the legend... Making it mainstream to eat fresh, locally grown ingredients. And in every recipe he'll tell you - organic or free range! He may just save the world yet.

Mr. Jamie Oliver


I didn't get into Jamie Oliver until just over a year ago. I always loved cooking, and I had already started to use organic ingredients - but I didn't realise food could taste this good. Or that it has such an impact on our planet.

Not only that, he's leading the charge against factory farming along with our good friends Kisschasy. Hey, we're no vegan hippies here at Nature Haters - we love a good free range chicken pasta or some juicy organic lamb cutlets. We just understand the impact of our actions...

Of course, he's making squillions in the meantime - but at least he's doing some good along the way. In his last offering he'll even show you some easy veggies to grow at home and then show you how to cook 'em. (You know by eating home grown or locally grown produce you're saving petrol and coal from being burnt? Not to mention the extra nutrients and taste.)

If you're a bit of visual person - meaning you need pictures to help you understand things - watch this.

No, actually EVERYONE WATCH THIS



Anyway, it was Jamie who first opened our eyes to the beauty of good food, and the positive change it could make for our planet and so...

he is our Nature Lover of the Week!

Official Logo


Behold! An influx of creative genius... our new logo...

The Dolphin Killers and The Whaling Fleet have inspired the winter 2010 edition of the Nature Haters logo. This doesn't mean this blog is going to be all about whaling - we are against Nature Haters in general. They just happened to get our blood boiling the same day we started the blog!

Who knows, we might even release a new version every week? We'll make sure we include the weeks top Nature Hater - send in your votes now! Nah, we'll make the calls around here... but if you've spotted any Nature Haters you want us to rip on, let us know!

Nature Haters #1


And there you have it - they're back in the news and so fresh in our minds. Japanese Whalers are number one our hit list and our very first Nature Haters!

What is it exactly that they're researching on whales? Their large phallus'? It's a load of rubbish - the fuckers just like the damn taste of whale meat. They've got some bloody great beef over there and they can import Australian beef all they like. But that ain't good enough for em. They want whale! (At this point I must stress that I don't condone generalising a country or it's people. I'm certain that less than 1% of the 127 million Japanese would eat whale meat. I am only talking about the fuckers that do!)

Yeah the fuckers that love to eat whales and what about the crew who hack up Dolphins in Taiji, Japan? Those dudes are ruthless. They're gonna need their own post...

And now they're detaining a Kiwi Sea Shepherd captain? threatening to charge him with piracy!? They're the pirates. They're hunting in a whale sanctuary for gods sake! (Not the drink)

Jerks.

- If these Nature Haters really get your goat, then make sure you click on one of the links above and sign a petition or donate. It's amazing what a big difference a little action can make.

Who is going to be the first?

I often get pretty angry when I see some dirtbag throw their cigarette butt out of the car window. Not to mention when we head out to the rock pools to unwind and have a swim and find rubbish carelessly discarded by some bogan (usually some cigarette butts too). I get especially mad when I hear that yet another part of our beautiful forests have been bulldozed for a new housing estate! BUT... that doesn't mean I'm going to rush into labeling my first Nature Hater.

I just saw Top Gear was starting on channel 9 - they could quite easily qualify for Nature Haters. Regularly burning excessive amounts of fuel and making it popular to do so.

Tony Abbott has really been pushing my buttons lately by blatantly opposing Labors ETS. But given that I'm not up-to-date with what he's proposing instead, I better not be too hasty. He might have a better idea - if not you'll see him here again soon.

Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is that I want to get the very first labeling of a Nature Hater right! Stay tuned...